Crash with Audio Damage plugins

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I was unable to reproduce the crash in Live 8. So far, I only get this crash in Reaper, but not in Cubase or Live.

These steps will bring down my Live 8.09: - Create a new set with one track - Add for example EOS to the track - Create a new track - Delete the track with EOS - Add a plugin to the remaining track - Move the plugin window And this happens on 4 different machines with XP and Vista.

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Just an update on this issue. I posted this issue in KVR and I was able to get a response from Chris from AD: Hey, guys: There was a period a couple weeks ago where I was missing a _lot_ of incoming emails. As Funkybot says, if an email contains a question or a problem, I answer it fairly quickly, usually within an hour or two. If you haven't heard from me within 24 hours, write again or send a PM here. Anyhow, the one thing all those plug-ins listed have in common is that they all use VSTGUI 3.5, which automatically uses GDI+. We don't have any choice in the matter. But that said, if Reaper can't load a plug-in that is using GDI+, then Reaper needs to be addressed. GDI+ is the base level drawing mechanism for Windows programs, provided by Microsoft, and in every Windows install from XP SP2 on; it's not some rare 3rd party open source shenanigans or anything. In any event, I'll write the Reaper devs and see if we can't get this sorted out, but the way I look at it, this is absolutely a problem with Reaper, not our products. ---- Chris Randall Audio Damage, Inc. Hopefully, this can be resolved. If you guys need any info from me, please let me know. Btw, this is what I get in the Event Viewer: Faulting application reaper.exe, version 3.1.4.15, faulting module unknown, version 0.0.0.0, fault address 0x4ec683bd. For more information, see Help and Support Center at . Thanks, stuman

I posted this at KVR: Yes, unfortunately, I can confirm this. I don't have another host to try this out on. Reaper crashes 100% of the time, following stumans' steps, when unloading these AD plugins- Eos Ricochet And never crashes for me when unloading- Fuzzplus Rough Rider (free) Discord Dubstation 914 Filter Bank Funny, I was about to revert back to Reaper 3.12 because I thought that was the last version that was stable for me. But I believe the release of 3.13 just coincided with my purchase of Eos. So, I tried a bunch of other plugins- Voxengo, FabFilter, SE stuff, Camel Audio... I can't reproduce this using any other plugins. Do other devs not use VSTGUI 3.5? (Please excuse my computer graphics ignorance.)

Hey, guys: I imagine that most of you are reading both places, but I've put up a fairly lengthy post about this situation in the thread on the subject at KvR, which you can read here: The Cliff's Notes version: neither John nor I can figure out what the fuck is going on. It didn't happen in Reaper 2.x. It does happen in 3.x. If you'd like a refund, you know where to find me, and I'll honor all requests, no matter when the products were purchased, if you honestly state that Reaper is your main host. We'll begin working on this issue in earnest once Tattoo is released, as we can't hold the release of that to deal with this. (There are, after all, only two of us.) So if you can't wait a couple weeks, I'll be happy to offer you a refund. Otherwise, watch this space and its twin at KvR, as I'll post my findings once I have findings to post. Chris Randall Audio Damage, Inc.

Actually, a quick follow-up to the preceding; I wasn't following the steps correctly. I am now able to reproduce the crash here 100% of the time, which means it can be found and fixed. So everyone just sit tight. This will have to wait until Tattoo is released to be addressed, but it'll be addressed one way or the other. Chris Randall Audio Damage, Inc.

Thank you, Chris!!!